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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Jun 19, 2007 6:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

" jerry was a very flawed guitarist - very good - but flawed "

Bah.. I don't care about the technical aspects.. Josh Clark from TLG could take on jerry anyday, but Jerry has personality. Jerry has the feel, the mindset, the creativity, the love, the Jerryness. I dunno, I feel like I feel something I feel when listening to Jerry than I do with other people. Apparently I feel Jerry. (!) ha. Jerry is -the- man

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jun 19, 2007 7:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

Whether Jerry was a technically proficient player and better or not than many out there can be argued until the cows come home. The bottom line is that he had a unmistakable tone and style that set him well apart from all the rest. This doesn't take into account the genres he covered, such as funk, jazz, bluegrass, country, blues, and good ol' R&R.

There's probably a better example of player in each of those many genres, but I'd be a little hard pressed to cite a player that kept his signature style and tone in every one of them.

It's a fact that Jerry gets bashed on a fairly regular basis on another website, the pedal steel forum. On most every occasion, someone unexpected will come to his defense, bringing to light his signature sound...above his technical command of the instrument.

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Poster: acetboy Date: Jun 19, 2007 11:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

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This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2007-06-19 18:30:14

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Poster: walterbedingfield415 Date: Jun 19, 2007 8:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

check out CAN....Tortoise is def, highly infulenced by them

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Poster: acetboy Date: Jun 19, 2007 11:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

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Poster: walterbedingfield415 Date: Jun 19, 2007 8:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

you lucky bastard....ive give a tesitcle to see CAN live....bet that was cool as hell

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 19, 2007 7:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

i feel the same way about Kimock too - and i certainly feel that with Jerry as well - believe me!!! i am not trying to disparage jerry - that is that last thing i am trying to do max

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Poster: patkelley Date: Jun 19, 2007 7:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

wow... i'm not touching this one.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 19, 2007 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

Well for one thing, Garcia only had nine fingers, which sort of puts him in a category of his own... Sort of like the saying "They're not the best at what they do"... I'm not aware of any other nine fingered guitarists, so that would make Jerry "the best". But then, there is that "Garcia Soul", something you are all touching on, but again, an indefinable something that I've never heard in anyone else!

I also agree with Brother Wolf about Kimock... He plays some shit that comes very close to that indefinable thing... Would love to here Jerry and Steve playing together... Anyone know if it ever happened?

OK, 'nuff for now...

:)

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Poster: walterbedingfield415 Date: Jun 19, 2007 8:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

jerry had nine fingers on his picking hand....not exactly the same as having nine fingers on your fretting hand......if you wanna hear the best guitar player with limited fingers...check out Django Reinhardt....he had his lindex and middle finger of his fretting hand fused together in a fire and still managed to be the most influential guitar player ever...jerry included

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 19, 2007 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

I never knew that about Django, and yes I am familiar with him, and yes again, that would be much more difficult...

I'm very tempted to go with the "nine fingers on either hand", but I know it's just a typo and going to resist...

;)

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Jun 20, 2007 5:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

comparing kimock (who sends me to sleep every time i try to listen to skb) with jerry is ridiculous to say the least

the only 3 guitarist that could´ve been compared to jerry sailed away long ago - jimi hendrix, duane allman and john cipollina. i´m not talking about the guitar playing technique here, but about the spirit and the overall effect of the sound created. and yes, of course, jorma´s still around - well worth a comparison

jerry and kimock played together once only. it was the last cipollina´s gig w/ zero. pretty average show
http://www.archive.org/details/zero1988-07-16senn441

peace

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Poster: doodle Date: Jun 19, 2007 6:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

Someone mentioned Railroad Earth, and I have to say that i like those guys a lot. Some stuff can be..uninspired, for lack of a better term, but I still think they're worth your time. Another band, Donna the buffalo is very good. I find it hard to call the a jam band, but they often get lumped there. They're more Americana, I suppose. The David Nelson Band is definitely worth checking out. Those guys can play. They don't start out hitting you over the head with stuff, but before you know it, suddenly they are in the middle of a very well played extended jam. And a final note (from my experience) is Assembly of Dust. Granted, they can "miss' on some tunes, but they write really "literate" tunes. They strike me as understanding the pop/rock song structure, but they inject it with smart lyrics and very good musicianship. They are worth a listen, though I do know folks who have found them "boring", which in the realm of twirly jambandedness, I suppose I can see someone thinking that

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 19, 2007 7:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jam Bands...where do you stand?

Right you are doodle... any configuration of the David Nelson Band is worth listening too!!!